SPN 4.18 --- I really liked everything except for THAT.

[chase_acow]

Okay, so seriously. I was taking my little brother on college visits Thurs/Fri and we were in a motel in the middle of AR. I thought for a second about taking my laptop and then thought, nah, surely there won't be anything earth-shattering happen. Oh, imagine my surprise when Sam and Dean discuss mention slash fanfic AND WINCEST on national television. *facepalm* : )

As I said to creedcascade, I feel kinda like my best friend just blabbed to everybody a secret that I told them in confidence. And see, I'm really hard to embarrass in real life, so I'm not upset about it, I just feel very awkward about it. My insides are squishy and I still feel like I'm waiting for someone to bop me on my nose and say "bad girl!" I outed myself to one of my friends who watch SPN so I could wail about Sam slash Dean ON THE SHOW! She was cool, she coddled me and said, 'yup, that'd be kinda awkward.'

I mean, I remember when I first found slash back in '98 or '99. It took a while and I had to kind of acclimatize myself mouse-click to mouse-click. Now there are people who will google the term and get through into the butt-sex head first (and isn't that an interesting visual?).

Mostly, I was away from my computer, and I'm not even kidding, but all I could think of was doomsday scenarios. I guess I might be a tad bit melodramatic. *sheepish* My first worry was that all of fandom would hate us (SPN fandom) for outing slash. We'll be shunned wherever we go! I thought to myself. My second worry was that this would make the most epic wank to end all wanks. Supernatural vs. Wincest: internet cage match to the death! Then I thought, Oh, I wonder if everyone will freak out and lock their journals and we'll have to go back to the stoneage technology of mailing lists until society as a whole forgets us again.

I think I'm still holding my breath waiting for the other shoe to drop. I did watch the scene repeatedly just now so it won't catch me by surprize again.

ETA: Also, how much fun do you think Jensen and Jared had trying to shoot the slash scene? I'll bet they were giggling right up to the minute the director yelled action. I hope they weren't too mocking...

gigglingkat has a good post here talking about TWoP as the forum from the episode.
missyjack posts here about her shiny Show/Fandom OTP and links back to that awesome Ghostfacers comic where Sam and Dean are The Beast With Two Backs protecting their right to have the most poutiest lips on TV. : )


Anyway, back to SPN

I love that in the same episode where Dean pronounced that Sam slash Dean was sick is also the episode where Dean basically told Heaven and Earth that we could all go to Hell if somebody didn't help him keep Sam from sexxing up Lilith save Sam. This was an awesome brother episode, but there was also plenty in there for a slash fan to dig into no matter who they were slashing. That's what I like to see! : )

I'm going to post a poll on this ep later because I'm really curious what everyone else on my flist thought about it.

I randomly throw grenades.

Comments

[out-0f-habit.livejournal.com]

I agree. I feel like everywhere I've gone recently on the internet (including LJ) I keep seeing people say finally the wincest fans have been put in their place and it's so good Kripke did something about those horrible Sam and Dean slashers and worst of all FINALLY Kripke has made wincest canonically impossible. That's the worst part of this whole thing.

And I feel awkward and judged. Especially with the new EW article. I think that is the worst part of all, for me. I can deal with them doing it on the show, because there was some kind of discussion beforehand-- at cons and such-- where fans have talked to the actors/writers about it. So it wasn't like SURPRISE WE KNOW YOUR SECRET AND JUDGE YOU as much as the EW article completely was.

IDK what to think. I'm confused and feel like the tone of the set is changing-- the cover of EW was something like "the show is great, so why do the stars want off?" And I don't like where the show seems to be heading, and just. Bah. Supernatural is too much for me right now. I think it wouldn't have been a big deal at any other time, but with this, news that the boys might not be getting along, drama over Danneel, drama over everyone wanting off the set, drama over potentially giving Misha slash fanfiction, the separation between Sam and Dean, and a lot of fans being unhappy with the story line-- just... bad timing.

[chase-acow.livejournal.com]

I'm so glad that I have my own little corner over here where I haven't seen the wincest bashers yet. I'm sure I will, this is way too tempting a wank to pass up but I am not going looking. I'm really hoping that I can shoulder through it. I mean, I like Sam/Dean. I do it because it makes me happy both to write and to write about these characters I love. I can easily ignore or outmaneuver Dean's supposed denouncement of wincest, no prob. That other people enjoyed the no wincest shouldn't impair me from enjoying the wincest.

The EW article was annoying. Back in the day, I never thought that slash would ever be as public as it is now. On one hand, that's kinda scary, but on the other hand, maybe more people will find us who need to find us. I don't know. I can see the creepiness factor. I didn't start watching SPN until just before S3 because I was weirded out by the idea of incest. I just mean I can see where they're coming from. I live in Oklahoma and just the idea of being queer is damnable and open to mocking. I don't think many would get the idea of slash. So, this judging is not new, it's just never been so public.

I gained a lot of emotional baggage to carry around fandom over the rumors of the boys fighting and that damn blind item that went around earlier. As much as I like to play with the characters of "Jensen" and "Jared" I actually really like them as people too and want them to be happy. They were so cute at the con though, and since I don't care either way about Danneel I could ignore that. But you're totally right. Drama on the set + drama on the show + drama in fandom and I'm surprised that there isn't more spontaneous human combustion going on! *shakes head*

I going to hang on until the end though, even if I have to bite and scratch to hold on. : ) I think the good still outweighs the bad, and I meet too many awesome people through SPN.

[downfall35.livejournal.com]

but there was also plenty in there for a slash fan to dig into no matter who they were slashing. That's what I like to see! : )

God yes, that's the most slash heavy ep I've seen in a while. It was awesome and just like you said: slash prompts for any pairing in that one.

[chase-acow.livejournal.com]

I knew you'd be into this episode! : P

I loved the Dean/Castiel scenes there's so much going on between them every time they're in the same room. Those boys just keep getting better and better together.

[thady.livejournal.com]

I always miss most of the Supernatural drama because I'm just not that fannish about the show and try to keep to the saner elements. And I really don't know much about the actor's lifes, so any drama there usually passes me by.